Improve Coburg...
What would you like to change or see improved about Coburg?
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bobd Comment 1 3 May 2009, 5:53 PM
1. Separate the people from the Sydney Road traffic by redeveloping the Coles site into a mixed use residential / retail piazza with underground carparking.
2. Institute extended clearways into the city during the morning peak and away from the city during the afternoon peak.
3. More regular street sweeping and litter control.
4. Victoria Mall is a nice start, but when you sit back and really look at it, it's pretty underwhelming - especially given the huge increase in numbers the plan predicts - we will need something much bigger and grander (see #1).
5. 15 minute parking only on Sydney Road.
1. Separate the people from the Sydney Road traffic by redeveloping the Coles site into a mixed use residential / retail piazza with underground carparking.2. Institute extended clearways into the city during the morning peak and away from the city during the afternoon peak.3. More regular street sweeping
more…prideandprejudice Comment 1.1 4 May 2009, 9:52 AM
You cannot take away parking from Sydney Road. We need our customers to be able to park nearby to support our business or they will go somewhere else.
City Slicker Comment 1.1.1 18 May 2009, 10:06 AM
P+P. You may be right in that vehicles may never be completely removed from Sydney Road. However, providing better rear access for loading goods and creating an improved and welcoming front entry may generate more visitors to shops along Sydney Road. Ikea in Richmond have a good access model. Park your car, walk 1-2 mins, arrive at entry. If you require to load heavy goods, a 5 mins. loading bays is available for use.
Also, as a parent, if I cannot push the pram thru a doorway due to stock loading/unloading or steps to navigate, I will simply go elsewhere which is more user friendly.
I personally believe people are more likely to buy goods or services from a shop when walking by compared with via a car. It is difficult and time consuming enough just to drive down Sydney Road, let alone find a car parking space on Sydney Road so you could "drop in". 1/2 hour parking is far too short to "window shop" along Sydney Road.
P+P. You may be right in that vehicles may never be completely removed from Sydney Road. However, providing better rear access for loading goods and creating an improved and welcoming front entry may generate more visitors to shops along Sydney Road. Ikea in Richmond have a good access model. Park
more…prideandprejudice Comment 2 4 May 2009, 9:55 AM
Fix the footpaths on Sydney road. They are really ugly at the moment. And keep the street much cleaner. Work with more of the property owners, business owners and shopkeepers to tidy up the shop fronts. Small grants for cleaning and painting would be helpful.
lisa Comment 2.1 11 May 2009, 10:19 AM
I agree about the footpaths, they are terrible. They are also really narrow and walking down Sydney Road between Munro and Bell can be an absolute nightmare on busy days. Repaving would make so much difference.
City Slicker Comment 2.1.1 20 May 2009, 11:43 PM
That is true. What about astro turf all footpaths in Coburg? Adds colour and far more family friendly than concrete. Just a thought.
coburg76 Comment 3 5 May 2009, 7:05 PM
Carparks dominate central Coburg. They are unattractive and congested. Can't Council do something to address the car/parking situation and provide an opportunity to develop this land for shopping, housing and comunity facilities??
Jodie Comment 3.1 16 May 2009, 12:59 PM
I cannot believe we lost car spaces in Waterfield St to a Taxi rank. I am up pottering nearly every day and since the rank began I have onyl seen 1 cab and then its driver locked it and went into Alamy for a feed. Other cabs pull up outside coles liquor for people to load shopping. So why not re vamp the coles carpark and put a taxi rank where the baby pram spaces are allocated and place the baby pram people along the side where the entrance to the arcade is in the same carpark. The distance for the parents is only marginally further away, put the spaces back in Waterfield and no one loses. Parents with prams and disable will have the lenght of that strip, taxis get a spot which is also convenient and the rest of us get an extra 6 spaces of what is now wasted parking space.
I cannot believe we lost car spaces in Waterfield St to a Taxi rank. I am up pottering nearly every day and since the rank began I have onyl seen 1 cab and then its driver locked it and went into Alamy for a feed. Other cabs pull up outside coles liquor for people to load shopping. So why not re vamp
more…greencoburg1 Comment 4 6 May 2009, 4:59 PM
There should be no cars or no car parking within the central coburg area. The area should become a pedestrian haven where you can walk from one place to another without the fear of being hit by a car!
Sydeny Rd should become one lane in each direction (just the tram line) so the footpaths can be widened to encourage more activity on the street.
Plant more trees!!!!!!
Coburger Comment 4.1 6 May 2009, 5:20 PM
No car parks - are you SERIOUS!?
Sydney Road is still one of the main routes in and out of Melbourne. Your green utopian vision is very endearing but seriously - what planet are you on!!!
If there is gonna be more houses soon (Pentridge!) there will be more cars. Where are they gonna go!!? You might think they are ugly but they are a fact of life... We'll need more (and better) car parking options!
On your bike back to 1909 mate!
greencoburg1 Comment 4.1.1 6 May 2009, 5:41 PM
Happy to get back on my bike but I might get hit by a car!
I didn't say get rid of the cars, just no cars in the centre. Why cant we have underground car parks or car parks out of the centre?
Coburger Comment 4.1.1.1 11 May 2009, 2:09 PM
surely you are made of tougher stuff than that greencoburg1!
Coburgian Comment 4.1.1.2 17 May 2009, 7:23 PM
What you suggest is admiral for someone who can "Hop on a bike" but for all those who need to do the family's weekly shopping, a car is essential, especially if you are a senior person. Putting the car parks underground - would they be free because they would cost a fortune to build? And purchasing land to then build more car paking outside of the area would take most of the budgeted money. It would be a lovely soft and fluffy world except for reality.
Coburgian Comment 4.2 17 May 2009, 7:00 PM
The whole premis of the Coburg Initiative is based on shopping and traders. The large carparks were in fact constructed and paid for by the Traders Association. Reduce the amount of car parking and the area loses traders. Lose traders and the area becomes a back water of society. The council tried on your plan for Sydney Road some years ago and Vicroads went into apoplexy. They not only denied it, they killed it and burnt all traces. Well done, try again.
Enemy of greedy developers Comment 4.3 19 May 2009, 9:07 AM
This will not happen if Hamton gets its way and build 520 apartments with 560 car spaces on the old Coburg High School site
Anthony Comment 4.4 20 May 2009, 11:31 AM
This is a short sighted suggestion. Sydney Road is a commercial road and would die without the through traffic. Diverting this traffic would be at the expense of residential streets.
As a Brunswick resident who enjoys going to Coburg to shop, this pretty much precludes buying any larger items or bulk items from shops on Sydney Road. The occasional closing off of the Brunswick end is (just) acceptable for special occasions - but does cause massive inconvenience to residents by increasing cross traffic and making it difficult to get anywhere.
Closing it off altogether would be disastrous for residents and business and those who have difficulty walking any distance. I suspect these sort of ideas are put forward by the younger fitter residents who are capable of cycling everywhere. If you want Coburg "yuppified" this is the way to do it.
This is a short sighted suggestion. Sydney Road is a commercial road and would die without the through traffic. Diverting this traffic would be at the expense of residential streets.As a Brunswick resident who enjoys going to Coburg to shop, this pretty much precludes buying any larger items or bulk
more…Coburger Comment 5 6 May 2009, 5:24 PM
1. Fix the sports oval - "worst in Victoria" I heard.
2. Try and curb the number of $2 shops! Even a $3 and a $4 shop would be better.
3. Provide some space for kids.
4. Provide some options for entertainment or everyone will just drive stright down Sydney Road to the city.
greencoburg1 Comment 5.1 6 May 2009, 6:06 PM
They should get rid of the sports oval. It is this massive green space with a huge fence around it that stops people using it. Pull the fence down and let people in!! Why should only 36 poeple get to use it..... and only once a week!!
Coburger Comment 5.1.1 6 May 2009, 6:12 PM
what about the people who love to go along and watch those 36 people???
Coburgian Comment 5.1.2 17 May 2009, 7:40 PM
The Coburg City Oval was built in 1856 and during 1956 was the home of North Melbourne Football Club. It has a long and proud history of not just being the home ground of a football and cricket club but as a working icon of Coburg and local pride. Why not stop with that oval, let's pull them all down. To appreciate the future, we must have an appreciation of the past. We will all win if we only expand narrow points of view.
Jon Comment 6 7 May 2009, 7:53 PM
1. Make Sydney Road a pedestrian/ tram precinct. Re-develop car parking to underground multi level with access from Nicholson Street and Melville Road. Sydney road Tram ride could be free to encourage park and drive access to Sydney road shops. (Yes some cross streets will need to be kept)
2. Improve playgrounds/parks and open spaces by more regular cleaning, planting more trees and regular maintenance.
3. Improve bike paths, more off road paths and more separated on road paths (Copenhagen style). Current Upfield bike path improvements are fantastic.
Jon Comment 7 7 May 2009, 8:05 PM
More support for environmentally sustainable business and living. One of the attractions of coming to Coburg initially was the progressive council and the idea of Coburg becoming a solar city.
Dazza Comment 7.1 19 May 2009, 8:56 AM
I agree Jon, no need to stop at solar, there are plenty more options that are clean and will make Coburg sustainable and a better place to live.
City Slicker Comment 7.1.1 20 May 2009, 11:45 PM
Co-Gen! Co-Gen! How much longer do we need to wait?
Emma Comment 8 7 May 2009, 8:51 PM
1. Clean up the streets, remove rubbish and plant more trees.
2. Improve access to clean, safe public toilets in community areas. (Not those terrible automatic toilets like were recently installed near the library).
3. More child friendly spaces
4. Outdoor cafes and entertainment options. Community meeting points
5. Given the proposed dramatic increase in the number of people living in the Coburg are, I hope that Council are making plans to ensure that there will be adequate public services for all - maternal and child health, child care facilities, high quality primary and high schools, community health centres, mental health services and so on
1. Clean up the streets, remove rubbish and plant more trees. 2. Improve access to clean, safe public toilets in community areas. (Not those terrible automatic toilets like were recently installed near the library). 3. More child friendly spaces4. Outdoor cafes and entertainment options. Community
more…lisa Comment 8.1 11 May 2009, 10:20 AM
Agree that the public toilet facilities in Coburg are very lacking.
Leslie Comment 8.1.1 14 May 2009, 11:07 AM
"Lacking" is not the word I would use, Lisa. Ever been underground to that filth under Coles? (Never been in the Ladies but I puke at memories of the Mens)
Jodie Comment 8.2 16 May 2009, 12:54 PM
Amazing on the day of Speak out - the toilet was closed leaving the disgusting and un user friendly coles toilets. This is disgusting to have such few toilets - You wont keep people down the strip for long if they cant find a loo to go to.
Newlands Comment 8.3 25 May 2009, 4:37 PM
Coburg Olympic Pool served as a wonderful,healthy oudoor community meeting place over summer.All it needs is a cafe and some heating The Coburg Initiative and the Aquatic Strategy could mean we are left with only one indoor pool to use in hot weather.We need to retain this great outdoor facility .
TOOTS Comment 9 10 May 2009, 10:13 AM
Don't sacrifice Coburg's history in the redevelopment process.Preservation and restoration of the facades of old Sydney Road buildings. Encourage traders/owners to restore verandahs/awnings. Raise awareness in community of the rich history of Sydney Road.
Keep the library in the hub, the convenience of incorporating library visits with shopping could be the difference between people using or nor using the resource!Perhaps incorporate historical society with library somehow to give locals easier access to information.(Could be a dedicated display area)
Don't turn it into another yuppie suburb! Multiculturalism is the lifeblood of Coburg and makes it the great place that it is, maintain the diversity.
Improve crossing for pedestrians in the street at the back of the market. It's unsafe.
Don't sacrifice Coburg's history in the redevelopment process.Preservation and restoration of the facades of old Sydney Road buildings. Encourage traders/owners to restore verandahs/awnings. Raise awareness in community of the rich history of Sydney Road.Keep the library in the hub, the convenience of
more…lisa Comment 9.1 11 May 2009, 10:21 AM
Agree about the pedestrian crossing behind the market, and going between the two Coles. They are a hazard!
Leslie Comment 9.1.1 14 May 2009, 11:10 AM
The Police could double their budget if they issued tickets at this crossing!
maclynx Comment 9.2 13 May 2009, 7:47 AM
I agree. Don't move the library. It gives heart and soul to the centre that dies when the shops close in Sydney Road. The library should be expanded with more meeting rooms available to the community. The library is busy and has a range of activites that suit all sections of our community
Pinkeve Comment 9.3 18 May 2009, 3:16 PM
Leave the library where it is, right in the center. Maybe a major renovation or build a modern building that is specially build to be a library instead of an old supermarket building, that has bad air conditioning. Make it a state of the art facility for the community.
lisa Comment 10 11 May 2009, 10:25 AM
1. There are very few dog-friendly locations in Coburg. An off the leash dog park would be fantastic.
2. Upfield bike path needs improved links from Reynard Street to Coburg Station... currently the path runs along Railway Place then kind of disappears behind Dan Murphy's.
3. The car park behind Dan Murphy's is always empty of cars and filthy dirty. The bike path runs through it and people walk through from the station but it is badly lit and dangerous at night.
4. Most (all?) of the parks in Coburg are kept in a pretty dismal state. One central, well-equipped family friendly park would be fantastic.
5. The car parking at Coles opposite the library is unnecessary given the huge amounts of space at the other Coles, Safeway and behind the markets. That space coule be redeveloped into a public square leading off from the mall - with plenty of bike parking! This would help improve the position of the library as a community hub.
1. There are very few dog-friendly locations in Coburg. An off the leash dog park would be fantastic. 2. Upfield bike path needs improved links from Reynard Street to Coburg Station... currently the path runs along Railway Place then kind of disappears behind Dan Murphy's.3. The car park behind Dan Murphy's
more…ilovecoburg Comment 10.1 12 May 2009, 2:45 PM
I agree. Open Space in Coburg could be so much more than it is! Victoria Mall is a well-used space and this could be extended.
Take away all the carparks (put them underground) and make all that area open space. Plants lots of trees, incorporate water re-use into the site, develop community gardens, have a recycling centre and build an eco-designed community centre that has employment / training programs for vulneralbe community members!
The footpaths and landscaping could also undergo a major facelift.
Enemy of greedy developers Comment 10.2 19 May 2009, 9:22 AM
The best park is the City Oval but it is monopolised by a sporting club. The fence must be removed.
CazK Comment 10.3 26 May 2009, 6:18 PM
I also agree that more off leash areas are needed in Coburg, it promotes community and responsible dog ownership.
I agree that dead zones like that behind Dan Murphys are dangerous and unecessarily ugly, why dont we make an effort to create small green pockets that communities will enjoy.
Kylie Comment 11 14 May 2009, 10:56 AM
1. Coburg needs more green spaces, including better play areas for kids and families.
2. The streets on the south side of Bell St should be cleaned up like those on the north side, with new pavement and nature strips installed, and more trees planted.
3. Some streets could do with more lighting, to increase safety, particularly in the streets close to Sydney Road.
4. A beautifully designed mall would be great, something like Sparta Place in Brunswick
Enemy of greedy developers Comment 11.1 19 May 2009, 9:06 AM
Surely the fence around city Oval must be pulled down immediately and access for all at all times should be made available. why does a football club monopolise this wonderful green space?
Newlands Comment 11.2 25 May 2009, 4:31 PM
What better green ,family play area than Coburg Olympic Pool? This pool is by the creek ,grassy with beautiful native trees and a BBQ and it's future is not guaranteed.Outdoor pools are an important part of our culture .8000 swam here in the heatwave ,where would they go if we only had a small indoor pool in Coburg?
With heating it would be an even more productive part of Coburg's infrastructure.
Leslie Comment 12 14 May 2009, 11:00 AM
Improvements to the area should not have to wait for years.
1. Do something about the so-called Coburg Market. We longer time residents remember when it was a lively community hub with many small outlets that provided marvellous competition for high quality produce. Not the one-shop, not very good situation, we now have. Bring back a real Coburg Market. Oh for the Saturday mornings of old!
2. Before anything is done about the Initiative do something urgently about footpaths in the area. Sydney Road and Waterfield Street, for example, are very dangerous and are a absolute disgrace.
3. Street cleaning should be a priority - now!
Improvements to the area should not have to wait for years. 1. Do something about the so-called Coburg Market. We longer time residents remember when it was a lively community hub with many small outlets that provided marvellous competition for high quality produce. Not the one-shop, not very good
more…lisa Comment 12.1 16 May 2009, 3:54 PM
Yes! Do something about Coburg Market. When I moved back to Coburg after a few years absence I was really disappointed to see how crappy the market had become. It used to be thriving!
Jodie Comment 12.1.1 27 May 2009, 9:25 AM
Here here. One store takes over the whole middle section..Empty shops and limited variety. No wonder we are all heading over to lively and variety of Preston Market. I want to support local but ... give us something to invest our money in.
Pinkeve Comment 12.2 18 May 2009, 3:19 PM
Coburg Market looks unappealing and unhygienic. The new fish shop is great but as for the rest, scrap it and start again.
David Mayes Comment 13 16 May 2009, 6:20 PM
Sydney Rd and Bell St are the main movement routes in the activity centre and they should be designed give priority to Public transport (tram on Sydney Road and bus on Bell Street), bicycles and pedestrians for 400m in each direction from the Sydney Rd/Bell Street intersection and with a maximum speed of 30kph speed limit to ensure both roads are pleasant, safe and efficient for all road users.
Enemy of greedy developers Comment 13.1 19 May 2009, 9:05 AM
Rest assure the prposal by Hamton for 520 apartments and 560 car spaces will make the current traffic debacles around Sydney/Bell intersection look like a picnic.
Coburgian Comment 14 17 May 2009, 7:11 PM
The back bone of the Coburg Initiative was always a "Transport Hub". To facilitate a "Transport Hub" there must be adequate traffic flow around, into and out of the area. In fact, the traffic flow must account for growth for the next twenty to fifty years. The storm water drainage for the whole area is over 100 years old and crumbling, and no plans or finances to replace it. Without well planned infrastructure, the rest becomes just fluff.
mairi Comment 15 18 May 2009, 4:20 PM
1. I would like to know that all storm water from the new developments is collected and recycled to homes, parks and businesses for not drinking uses, possibly by holding it in large underground cisterns. This has been done successfully in low precipitation places since the Romans if not before. Needs to be planned and installed before above ground work begins.
2. Sydney Rd and elsewhere in Coburg have wonderful streetscapes that should be kept. Improve by putting power lines in all new developments underground, ban the revolting advertising that obliterates the harmony of our Victorian and early 20th C legacy, and paint the facades appropriately. Our urban environment can be as good as the European cities we pay thousands to visit and admire. No-one in Europe would be allowed to put such obtrusive and jangling advertising in their prized inner urban locations. They all have heritage standards.
3. Provide consulting rooms for sole practitioner allied and alternative health services. When I was looking for rooms I ended up in Queens Rd Clifton Hill to find affordable, sessional rooms. My clients then had to travel.
4. Provide affordable studio space and housing for artists and musicians. Encourage a creative community.
5. If infil housing is built on tram routes it should not be higher than 5 stories. Everyone should have access to light and sun, not just the top floor. Tram routes should have car traffic banned to ensure speedy trips. I spent 25 minutes on a Saturday afternoon tram making its way up Sydney RD in fairly normal traffic. Not good enough for people going to work or between jobs.
Thanks for the opportunity to contribute.
1. I would like to know that all storm water from the new developments is collected and recycled to homes, parks and businesses for not drinking uses, possibly by holding it in large underground cisterns. This has been done successfully in low precipitation places since the Romans if not before. Needs
more…Coburgian Comment 15.1 18 May 2009, 6:04 PM
Mairi, I understand your vision but reality unfortunately gets in the way.
1. There is no financial provision for the urgent upgrading of the crumbling stormwater system that provides for the Initiative area now, extending that for large underground storage facilities would take all the monies available to biuld the entire project. Besides, the soil structure of Coburg would not be condusive for such large water holding tanks as we sruggle to keep the existing public swimming pools from cracking and breaking in half already.
2. Sydney Road is controlled by Vicroads, the electricity supply by power companies and any major pipe works would undoubtedly be controlled by the Dept. of Infrastructre. All up bill would be well over one billion dollars and I don't think they have that cash lying about.
3. Re your consulting rooms - there are a number of vacant offics and shops along and around Sydney Road, but your real opposition is to their cost. Unfortunately if council were to supply you consulting rooms, I don't think they could garuntee what you want to pay for them.
4. Why just artists and musicians? Why not designers, architects, software programmers, bankers, sports people? If it is just the ideallic sounds of flutes playing in the air whilst you shop, we already have a proflagration of buskers.
5. You are complaining about a 25 min trip to the city? Coburg's population is set to nearly triple within the next few years and you want to reduce traffic flow even further so you can cut a few minutes off your trip? Anyway, Coburg council tried to reduce the flow in Sydney Road some years ago only to be denied by Vicroads for that very reason.
Mairi, I understand your vision but reality unfortunately gets in the way.1. There is no financial provision for the urgent upgrading of the crumbling stormwater system that provides for the Initiative area now, extending that for large underground storage facilities would take all the monies available
more…Newlands Comment 16 18 May 2009, 6:09 PM
1.With increased population from Coburg Initiative plus Pentridge and Kodak developments there is even more need for provision of secondary education for the Coburg area.
2.We do not want another Ackland St -if rents are too high the chain stores will move in at the expense of small local traders selling real things that locals need.
3.Provision of outdoor space in central Coburg where families and people of all ages can meet/play is vital.
This would ideally be placed near the mall and library ,which I agree should reamain central.
4The future of Coburg's pools is linked to Coburg Initiative ,the current Aquatic Strategy is to demolish one and use developers money to develope the other.Both pools should be retained.Coburg Outdoor Pool functioned as the Village Square over summer .8000 visited in the heatwave .It must be heated but doesn't need over the top development.A cafe would be great and well patronised esp if could be accessed from outside as well because there is none in the area.
1.With increased population from Coburg Initiative plus Pentridge and Kodak developments there is even more need for provision of secondary education for the Coburg area.2.We do not want another Ackland St -if rents are too high the chain stores will move in at the expense of small local traders selling
more…thepobson Comment 17 18 May 2009, 7:39 PM
Make sure any developments & construction are of the highest environmental standards and cutting edge of good design. No cheap,ugly development please. Victoria Mall must be extended to include the library and an alternative provided for goods deliveries to the businesses within Vic Mall. With a huge growth of young families in coburg, some play equipment of sorts in Vic mall would be well utilized. Some space in Central Coburg must be retained for green open space/park, incorporating a community & arts garden. The future of the Coburg Olympic swimming pool must be secured and current site retained and improved - no big developments required, perhaps a cafe, solar heating and increased opening hours. More provision for Cyclists and public transport users with restrictions on car use would greatly improve the Central Coburg area and help reduce Moreland's overall green house gas emissions. A high school in Coburg is also desperatley needed and an issue that must be urgently addressed. Please retain Coburg's unique migrant, working class, alternative & artistic charm and ensure that all developments driven be need only and not profit.
Make sure any developments & construction are of the highest environmental standards and cutting edge of good design. No cheap,ugly development please. Victoria Mall must be extended to include the library and an alternative provided for goods deliveries to the businesses within Vic Mall. With a huge
more…Enemy of greedy developers Comment 17.1 19 May 2009, 9:23 AM
'Cheap and ugly" is what we will get is hamton and its plan for 520 aprtmetns and 653 car spaces onthe old COburg High School site gets up.
Education for our kids Comment 17.2 19 May 2009, 12:21 PM
A high school for our municipality is an urgent need. People our voting with their feet and our leaving our community to get access to a decent high school.
socjus Comment 18 18 May 2009, 10:15 PM
A secondary school. without one, we will be forced to move out of the area we love so our kids can go to a local school.
Dazza Comment 18.1 19 May 2009, 8:51 AM
I agree, its not a community without the basics of a good open entry secondary school.
Education for our kids Comment 18.2 19 May 2009, 12:23 PM
Please support a High school for this area, we want our community to stay together and not be broken up because of the lack of a quality high school in Coburg
Cobogan Comment 19 18 May 2009, 10:22 PM
Hoons and kids on mini-bikes should be herded out to Calder race track and dirt trails. Sydney Road should be a mall with underground road tunnel into city. Trams should become cable car network. Merri Creek should be rejuvenated with Gondolas for transport. Coburg Lake should be detoxed and Coburg Pool solar heated and open at night with outdoor cinema.
lisa Comment 19.1 27 May 2009, 9:11 AM
I agree. I have seen kids riding mini bikes on the Upfield bike path more than once. It's dangerous to the bike riders and pedestrians that use the path.
Enemy of greedy developers Comment 20 19 May 2009, 9:02 AM
1. The very first developemtn proposal for the Coburg Initiative is 13 storeys high on the old High School site in Bell Street. If this is approved then all bets are off and Coburg wil become a place of high rise apartment blocks, little natural light and wind tunnels. We must stop Hamton from building its proposed 520 apartments in Bell Street.
2. The best parkland in Coburg, City Oval, is monopolised by the Football Club. The fence around the oval must be immediately removed so ratepayers may access this wonderful piece of land.
coburg76 Comment 20.1 19 May 2009, 12:35 PM
Hello Enemy of greedy developers, the proposal you have mentioned on the former High School site is not part of the Coburg Initiative. While it is located in the study area it is being undertaken by Hamton not the Moreland/Equiset partnership. From my understanding, their proposal has been with Council for a number of years - way before the Coburg Initiative.
I definitely agree with the City Oval - the fence must go!
Enemy of greedy developers Comment 20.1.1 19 May 2009, 1:23 PM
Thanks for your comment - we need to be very careful of this excessively greedy development and I wil tell you why. The proposal for 520 apartments and 563 car spaces has been lodged by Hamton with council last week. The site on which Hamton want to build is part of the parcel of land dedicated to Coburg Initiative. The precendant set by this development will entirely influence all subsequent development in Coburg. Should hamton get the OK for 13 storeys what message does this send to developers who come into our city? The ramifications will be profound. To ignore the Hamton plan is to ignore the very first development within the Coburg Initiative.
Thanks for your comment - we need to be very careful of this excessively greedy development and I wil tell you why. The proposal for 520 apartments and 563 car spaces has been lodged by Hamton with council last week. The site on which Hamton want to build is part of the parcel of land dedicated to Coburg
more…Enemy of greedy developers Comment 20.1.1.1 19 May 2009, 4:47 PM
The plot thickens - Robert La Rocca ex Mayor of Moreland President of Coburg ALP Branch is representing Hamton, the developer. http://www.cprcomm.com.au/index.htm
Coburger Comment 20.1.1.1.1 19 May 2009, 5:09 PM
Maybe Robert La Rocca's involvement isn't such a terrible thing - from his company website.
Robert is Chairperson of CERES Community Environment Park in East Brunswick - a not for profit community organisation at the cutting edge of driving the take-up of sustainable practices in the community.
Hopefully his work at CERES demonstrates a commitment to Moreland...
Don't know much about the site - but what if Hamton suggested a Community Housing development? Certainly there would be demand.
However the trouble is that essentially it sounds as if that site - while in the suggested boundary of the 'Coburg Initiative' - is not part of this bigger project. I hope that the Initiative can have some influence but I think it's all in Hamton's court...
Maybe Robert La Rocca's involvement isn't such a terrible thing - from his company website.Robert is Chairperson of CERES Community Environment Park in East Brunswick - a not for profit community organisation at the cutting edge of driving the take-up of sustainable practices in the community. Hopefully
more…CazK Comment 20.2 26 May 2009, 6:47 PM
I have read that 75% of the apartments in the proposed complex are one bedroom. Why is this, isnt it madness to build such developments which serves only to promote transient populations moving through the community rather than families and couples who might decide to call coburg home. Will this development cater to older people or only the lucky few who can pay the exhorbitant rents likely to be charged? is this a boon to our community or only the developer?
lisa Comment 20.2.1 27 May 2009, 9:08 AM
Actually, there is a real need for housing that caters to single people and couples. Not everyone starts a family, and not all single people and child-free couples are transient. The proximity of Coburg to the city means we could have a great, vibrant community of young people, old people, singles, couples and families... if there was a mixed type of housing to home them all.
Kajsa Comment 20.3 27 May 2009, 6:34 PM
Regardless who builds it we need to build more apartments and live more densely - With uneviatable population growth people got to go somewhere and we can't afford the infrastructure to grow on the outskirts of Melbourne... More people make a more vibrant community- we should take after ALL European cities- they don't live in large house blocks like we do. Although I agree that heritage must also be protected and apartments should be of reasonable size. New apartments should be of different sizes to encourage differnt type of families to move in.
lex Comment 21 19 May 2009, 12:35 PM
1. We definitely need more child friendly places in the center of coburg. Perhaps an extension of the mall right out to waterdale st would make room for a small play area? Or a good playground outside the leisure center?
2. There needs to be proper footpaths ALL the way along waterdale st.
3. The coburg market now only has one fruit and veg retailer, this monopoly means higher prices, the center of the market should have to be leased by at least two different fruit and veg retailers. This would also attract people to the other smaller stalls in the market.
4. It would be great to have a nice pub that is family friendly (ie No TAB!), has good food, is warm and inviting and has a big garden.
1. We definitely need more child friendly places in the center of coburg. Perhaps an extension of the mall right out to waterdale st would make room for a small play area? Or a good playground outside the leisure center?2. There needs to be proper footpaths ALL the way along waterdale st. 3. The coburg
more…Education for our kids Comment 22 19 May 2009, 12:37 PM
Build a quality education hub for our kids. Our Primary schools are great, our Kindergartens are great, but where is the high school?
Strathmore High is full, Northcote is full, Brunswick is full and all of these are zoned so we cannot send our children there, and what will happen when thousands of new dwelling are built and families move in further exacerbating the problem why do our pollies let us down so badly.
This really is a major issue about the integrity of our community. From our local primary school last year the leaving year 6 children seperated to 19 different high schools, all of those friendship groups broken, all that community lost, why is Moreland ignored by the education bureaucracy, and why are our Labour politicians so lacklustre in pushing for this
If a school is not built as a part of the Coburg initative then we will have to do what so many other parents have had to face up to and move out of the area out of our community
Build a quality education hub for our kids. Our Primary schools are great, our Kindergartens are great, but where is the high school? Strathmore High is full, Northcote is full, Brunswick is full and all of these are zoned so we cannot send our children there, and what will happen when thousands of new
more…Connolly Comment 23 19 May 2009, 2:39 PM
Coburg needs a Coburg High School. I am worried about where my children are going to attend high school. We have been told that we are zoned out of the schools that my kids can get to easily by public transport. I want my kids to learn independance by travelling by public transport to their local high school, with their friends from our neighbourhood.
That is very important to me
coburg_project Comment 24 21 May 2009, 10:27 AM
Two thoughts;
1. If development is confined within the study area it allows the rest of Coburg to retain its low rise/residential nature which is a good aim.
2. Older plans for Coburg wanted to extend what is now Vic Mall in an easterly direction to the oval, this is an excellent idea and should once again be attemtped.
3. If its all going to work then we need to rely on public transport and bikes becuase there will never be enought room on our roads for all the cars
lisa Comment 24.1 27 May 2009, 9:10 AM
As well as extending Vic Mall to the oval it would be great to make a nice link from the mall to the train station. Currently the path isn't very attractive or safe at night.
Kajsa Comment 24.2 27 May 2009, 6:40 PM
I agree that Council should encourage apartments high density housing in appropriate areas.
The growth of cars is unsustainable- the State Government MUST increase/improve public transport while Council can encourage Bike use though more paths for those that can ride bikes.
Kajsa Comment 24.3 27 May 2009, 6:41 PM
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